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Lampa cu UV in bazinele cu discusi?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject: Lampa cu UV in bazinele cu discusi? Reply with quote
Cineva imi recomanda daca vreau sa scap de "probleme", sa imi cumpar o lampa cu UV.
Am tot citit la ce foloseste dar, sincer, inca nu mi-am dat seama daca imi este util sau nu.
Acvariul meu este fara substrat, plante, iluminare artificiala, deci cu putine "sanse" sa apara alge in exces.
Am citit ca lampa distruge bacteriile din apa. Deci si pe cele "benefice", nu? Stiu ca bacteriile denitrificatoare sunt localizate in speciial in filtru, dar ma gandesc ca si cele din apa au un rol, cu atat mai mult cu cat acvariul este neplantat si fara "sanitari".
Respectivul mi-a propus o lampa cuplata la o pompa de recirculare care se baga in acvariu, pentru ca nu am filtru extern.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
tot ce este scris in postul tau, atat afirmatiile (banuielile) tale, cat si ale respectivului, sunt cat se poate de adevarate. o lampa cu uv iti rezolva multe dintre probleme, dar in cazul tau este recomandata numai daca ai un suport foarte eficient pt bacteriile denitrificatoare, in mediile filtrante.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Eu as fi "pentru" lampa UV. La calitatea asa numitei "apa potabila"...
Sterilizarea apei de schimb cu UV nu vad cu ce sa afecteze populatia de nitrosomonas si nitrobacter.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dragosdiscus wrote:
Sterilizarea apei de schimb

sterilizarea apei de schimb e cu totul altceva... numai ca asta implica un bazin separat, cu circuit propriu etc... si cum majoritatea dintre noi si-au ocupat tot spatiul disponibil cu bazine populate, unde sa-l mai punem si pe asta? icon_mrgreen
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Adica daca e complet ciclat sau daca spatiul filtrant este destul de mare pentru a gazdui o populatie de bacterii suficienta pentru acvariul meu, fara a se baza pe bacteriile din masa apei.
Ca mediu de filtrare am doi bureti mari cu o pompa de aer.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
nu ai filtru extern?
in cazul asta, cel mai indicat ar fi sa achizitionezi unul, cu lampa uv incorporata (si ai impuscat doi iepuri, dintr-un foc).
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
totusi... mai trebuie tinut cont de un aspect...
un organism crescut intr-un mediu steril, isi pierde treptat capacitatile imunitare. asa ca, in mod normal, nu trebuie apelat la lampa cu uv decat in timpul tratamentelor. in rest, sa lasam pe cat posibil natura, sa-si faca treaba...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Am hotarat sa cumpar una.
Puteti sa ma ajutati cu niste informatii despre modele, preturi, putere...
Cam cat de mare mi-ar trebui mie intr-un bazin de 200 ltr?
Daca e de putere mai mica, se poate compensa cu mai multe ore de functionare?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Una de 9-11 Watt ajunge, dar nu-i bine s-o intrerupi des ca se uzeaza accentuat la aprindere.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Una de 5 w nu ar fi o solutie? Si sa o las sa functioneze mai mult timp.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Puii crescuti in bazine in care s-a folosit U.V. risca sa fie sterili d.p.d.v. sexual la maturitate?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Banuiesc ca ai auzit vreun basm printre "acvaristi". icon_mrgreen Nu e nici un motiv sa ramana sterili. icon_wink
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
@Ciprian se refera la zvonul ca unii producatori (cu deosebire cei asiatici) sterilizeaza pestii scosi "pe piata" prin expunere la UV. Din cate cunosc (desi nu-mi explic mecanismul), se pare ca excesul de ozon poate induce fenomenul.
Cert este ca mi s-a intamplat, iat crescatori cu experienta mi-au confirmat, ca exemplare importate sa nu fie apte de reproducere (mai multi masculi de betta mergeau numai pana la faza cuibului),
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
@ciprian Am citit o discutie mai veche pe un alt forum, dar la vremea respectiva era doar la nivel de zvon. Ma gandeam ca poate intre timp lucrurile sa se fi limpezit si se stie ceva sigur.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Cristi, parca imi amintesc ca am participat si eu la o discutie pe tema asta, pe aquarium.ro. Daca despre respectiva discutie e vorba, poti pune un link spre topicul respectiv. Aici nu am mai intervenit, deoarece Ciprian si Dragos au spus tot icon_smile
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