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Intrebare de incepator
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pai eu fac schimburi o data la 2 zile.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eu mi-am spus parerea mai sus.
daca tot ai acvariul ala disponibil, trage apa din acvariul in care sunt discusii si muta acolo presupusa pereche. se vor linistii si ceilalti si astia doi pe care-i susupectezi ca fiind pereche.
un burete bolborositor (daca este format e si mai bine), ridici temperatura la 30 si nu-i hranesti cu nimic. mentii apa curata si vedem ce o sa iasa.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Intrebare de incepator Reply with quote

elgreco wrote:
drdiscus wrote:
[...]Abia dupa aceea ii muti numai pe ei doi intr-o apa moale.

tu asa reproduci discusii?icon_mrgreen
ii iei din acvariul comun, unde apa are gh-ul mare deasemei si kh-ul nu mai vorbesc de ph si ii trantesti intr-un acvariu cu apa moale?
... prin apa moale se intelege o apa cu duritate ~ 2-3, un kh care daca nu-l stapanesti bine iti pleaca ph-ul ca din pusca... asa se face reproducerea? icon_neutral.

evident ca nu asa se face. trecerea trebuie facuta treptat sub o atenta supraveghere la comportamentul pestilor.
Da, eu asa reproduc discusi cam de 10 ani.Salturile de pH de care pomenesti tu se fac tocmai datorita interventie noastre la apa de osmoza.Nu poti sa-i spui unui incepator sa se joace cu pH-ul la inceput.Sa-l lase cum iese din osmozor.Adica ca la robinet, aproape de neutru.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

doctore,
ori eu nu mai stiu sa scriu ori tu te faci ca nu intelegi ce scriu. unde am pomenit eu de permeat? unde ai vazut tu ca am spus sa se joace cu ph-ul?
am spus sa mute presupusa pereche intr-un alt acvariu si in aceiasi apa din acvariul comun.

daca nu ai un kh stabil nu ai sa reusesti in veci sa mentii ph-ul.

daca vrei sa facem chimie, facem dar, o sa-l zapacim pe Stef si nu va intelege aproape nimic si timpul nu-l asteapta.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:09 pm    Post subject: salut Reply with quote

Corect, il zapacim pe om.Corecta si legatura dintre pH si kH.Scriu cum fac eu.In acvariul comun am exact parametrii apei de la retea(folosesc exclusiv apa de retea).In bazinele de reproducere am apa exclusiv de osmoza cu saruri de la Sera.pH-ul este cel de la retea, ca si in apa din acvariul comun.Iau perechea si o mut in apa de osmoza dupa regulile de aclimatizare ( aprox.30 min ).Dupa ceva ani de experienta si multe perechi moarte tot imi joaca feste pH-ul de la reproducatori.Acesta este motivul pentru care nu-i bine sa umbli la pH la inceput.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gata. Am scos pestii. Sa vedem de acum ce va fi.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@stef, rabdare si suc... nu-mi place sa zic tutun chiar daca se potriveste mai bine icon_razz.
cu discusii trebuie sa ai mare rabdare. este una din principalele reguli de baza ale discusarului.

@drdiscus, pas icon_biggrin.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vad ca cerceteaza noul bazin si femela tot se scutura pe langa mascul. Cei din acvariul comul au iesit si ei in sfarsit de prin ascunzatori.icon_smile)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Au depusssssss..... happy0180 character0093 love0030 sign0173 Acum ce fac?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

icon_smile Ai rabdare si nu ii stresa!
Restul stiu ei sa faca! Te invata ei cum functioneaza...!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A trecut femela prima si acum trece si masculul. Cand trebuie sa pun albastru de metil?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pacat ca nu am cu ce sa il filmez icon_frown
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:04 pm    Post subject: salut Reply with quote

Mai bine pune Mycopur de la Sera, dar asta maine.Acum lasa-i in pace.Sa nu fii dezamagit prea tare daca nu-ti fac pui din prima.Se intampla destul de rar asta.La reproducerea discusilor iti trebuie muuuulta rabdare sau.......noroc.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vei avea si pui! Are dreptate drdiscus...putina rabdare...! Bafta!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Da albastru de metil nu e bun? Ca asta am eu prin casa acum.
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